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#blm"What do you mean both sides are the same? They are not. One is 6 and the other is 9.
Edit: I don’t mean it in a cynical way. Just that positioning matters in establishing truth. It is not just a matter of perspective (defined as subjective perception) but rather a matter of position (defined as inter-subjective agreement).
I agree there. This comic implies that both observers are correct because they are looking at the same thing from different angles; but that's not how most political issues are. It doesn't matter what your perspective on human rights is. If your perspective says human rights are not good: you're wrong. It's more akin to two people looking at the exact same thing, but one of them has glasses on that make them see ghosts and goblins that aren't really there.
It's actually pretty on point, but OP's conclusion is off. People are discounting the amount of Americans that are just good with doing a bit of frontier surgery on themselves and calling it a day.
Yeah they have bad planning for the future during end-of-life care. But technically speaking it would cause them to pay more in the short term for little benefit.
It's important to know that's where the argument "it would cost me more" comes from. That way you can persuade more effectively.
Actually, the painter wrote a 6. They were commissioned to write a 6.
Fuck your perspective, people should consider the original intent and research rather than just argue about it. Calling it "free speech" doesnt make it right or moral.
Replace "original intent" with "context" and I agree 100% with you.
I think that this is important to point out because we don't really have access to each other's "intention" (whatever this means); at most what they say and do, and specially for politics there's often a big mismatch between the alleged intentions of a policy vs. what the policy achieves.
Or, playing along the pic: if that random scribble is between a "5" and a "7", then it means six, no matter if the author claims "actually it's a nine".
(NB: I'm discussing this on general grounds, based on the image. I'm not from USA nor discussing its healthcare.)
One dude sees a 6. One dude sees a 9.
I look at it and see a broken soda can tab.
In this thread: People that oppose healthcare already proven all over the world screaming and crying about strawmen.
"You won't get to choose your doctor."
I already can't.
And would with M4A. There would be no such thing as "out of network" and as such the only limiting factor would be if the doctor themself already has too many patients.
One side simply wants you to be well. The other side wants you to die. We are not the same.
Why's universal health care bad for poor people? Please educate me.
It's an edit. The original has one guy saying 6, the other saying 9, because the creator naively thought "oh the political divide is really just down to people not understanding each other". This is a fairly common opinion of dipshit american centrists.
The edited version points out how this is incorrect, and that in reality different people have entirely different political views which cannot be reconciled. The example used is that rich people (the same ones that make up the US government and receive bribes from health insurance companies, for instance) want to keep making money from predatory health insurance and so oppose universal healthcare, while the average citizen supports universal healthcare.
It isn't just fucking poor people. It's paying out the ass to fuck poor people. Are they so committed to their principles that they wouldn't want to save a ton of money?
The actual rich who control our society aren't paying out the ass, they're the ones being paid.
Rank and file "working class" conservatives are deliberately poorly educated and fed endless propaganda to get them to vote against their interests and in favor of the rich.
Conservatives of moderate wealth, the "middle class" of small business tyrants and boat salesmen, live in constant abject terror of losing what they have. They know that if wealth were distributed equally, their quality of life would go down. As a result, they fight against any change towards redistribution of wealth, even if it would be beneficial.
Yeah, doesn't the US congress have one of the best healthcare plan available to an American citizen? Really makes you think
Because the cruelty is the point
Ah, thank you very much. So, that's the actual meaning of the post.
It's not. The two people in the picture are disagreeing. The joke is that normally this picture would be captioned with two people simply disagreeing over weather the shape is a 6 or a 9, but instead they're disagreeing with a political position.
Thank you. Make sense.
Says why right in the picture.
"Fuck them poor people"