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[–] amaze@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (23 children)

I was permabanned because I took part in a wider discussion on the r/games subreddit (hogwarts thread) that devolved a little bit into talking about trans issues down in the lower comments somewhere. I basically agreed with someone that if CIS women don't exactly feel comfortable sharing a bathroom with trans women and that if they wanted to have a discussion around that then that was a reasonable opinion to have and thing to do, and I guess the moderators thought that I was calling for trans genocide or some other insane BS.

[–] the_cutest_void@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (22 children)

hey, trans woman here.

  1. "cis" is not an acronym and is not capitalized.
  2. you are a transphobe
[–] amaze@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)
  1. awesome thanks for educating me
  2. no I am not, I personally know trans people and I have nothing against them whatsoever. You're just unwilling to admit that other people can have valid opinions other than your own if it doesn't immediately fit into the view of the ideal world you have in your head. You fail to realize that other people have their own ideas of a what an ideal world looks like, or you just don't consider their views to be valid, in which case you are doing the very same thing to them that you are accusing them of. So what it then comes down to is the need for a discussion between the two opposing groups to figure out what to do and how to reconcile. For the record, I don't have a personal opinion on who should use what bathroom, I was merely stating that if cis woman feel that sharing that space with trans women is not safe or ideal for them then they should have the right to express that opinion, be heard and have a discussion on it. What you want to do is pretend you are not acting like a fascist while telling them to shut up and just live it and not express their opinion. What I am doing is saying that both ends of the spectrum should be heard there.
[–] the_cutest_void@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you were a trans woman you'd understand how frightening it is to enter woman's bathroom, for reasons such as those you've mentioned. no, i am not a fascist. there are no discussions that can be considered sound from an ethical standpoint when it comes to viewing me as a human or subhuman, a position which you find is "worthy to discuss". bye!

[–] amaze@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am not going to shy away from the conversation because you want to be offended and then tell me bye.

"there are no discussions that can be considered sound from an ethical standpoint when it comes to viewing me as a human or subhuman"

And who exactly made that claim? No one did. My friend, you are not a subhuman, you're just a human like anyone else. This discussion has nothing to do with who or what is and is not human, and frankly speaking I know you know this. I am not a woman at all either, I am MERELY stating that I've seen cis women and trans women having discussions over this topic because of cis women concerns and I am not so quick to just throw their opinions and arguments in the trash as you are simply because you don't agree with them or don't like what they have to say.

It's kind of ironic because what this tells me is that you subconsciously view cis woman as being subhuman because you view their opinions and arguments as invalid or unethical when what is really happening here is a conflicting series of opinions and arguments. You simply want cis women to conform to your standards and shut up. That's... acting like a fascist.

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