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I have seen countless videos on tiktok of people being against this move, and my question is why? why wouldn't anyone want to be able to extend the life of their expensive devices, why wouldn't people want easily repairable batteries that take less than 5 minutes to swap out?
the only argument ive seen against this is "OOH BUT BUT BUT THE AESTHETICS OF THE PHONE" who cares? function should always be over looks. and if anything it will end the trend of phones being glassy slabs and bring some innovation and new designs to the table. which will be interesting to see.
What about aesthetics? They used to have removable back covers before and there wasn't any seam visible. This is not even a valid argument imho.
Battery pull was always a great way to unfuck a frozen phone
What do you have against waiting a day or two, not being able to use the phone, for the battery to run out so that you can reboot it? Simply removing the battery seems like to much effort. /s
Phones have a hardware interrupt. Just hold the power button for 30 to 45 seconds.
I had issues with my phone (OP8P) where that didn't helped.
I pressed the power button for minutes and the phone stayed unresponsive, only letting it run out of energy solved it.
Honestly that is mostly solved, all have some mechanism to reset it even if is completely frozen. Plus nowadays is not a that common occurrence.
Sure, it doesn't happen often. Those mechanisms are often just some software running in some microcontroller, which can also fail and manifactorers like to cheapen out where possible.
It did happen to me maybe 2 times in >5 years, where not even long pressing power button helps. I was traveling by rail the last time and luckly had my ticket physically.
They removed physical buttons and access to batteries and now I can't do shit when an app freezes (other than attempting to turn it off, but even then the "turn off?" Can't pop up)
Why do we love do design things like shit so much? It seems that every fist world struggle I ever had was due to bad design
Never get this point, if your phone froze and the screen is not responding, how another physical button would have solved the thing ?
And let's be honest, there is still a combination of key to hard restart any phone.
Because back in the olden days you could just hold down the physical power button to force a phone to shut down, same as you can do on computers still. This bypasses the frozen software and forces the phone to shut down so you can reboot it.
You still can ? All phones have a power button.
If my phone is frozen it doesn't respond to the power button because it's software shutdown
Have you held it for 45 seconds?
Pretty sure if you hold power and sounds button there is an hardware feature that shutdown the everything and reboot.
This isn't true. You just have to hold the hardware restart combination for longer.
You can still absolutely do it
iPhone X and later: Click Volume Up, then Down, then hold the Power Button for 10-15 seconds
Android Devices: Hold Volume Down + Power for around 7-15 seconds
Back in the day, when the phone froze, my power button shut the phone down and my home button still worked, even tho the screen froze.
Now, my phone asks me if I want to restart, make a call or turn it off. ... or it opens bigsby
It's just nerds bitching. This entire thread is a big old helping of I'm going to completely ignore 95% of the populations preference for a small compact phone.
Every single phone today can have the battery replaced for an extra $10 at your local shop.
This is a non issue for nerds to reeeeee about.
That's absolutely not true. You cannot replace the battery of a flagship phone for $10 anywhere. The going rate at Best buy is $60. And some will flatly refuse because they don't have the tools because Apple and others use ridiculous proprietary screws. Or intentionally stick a bunch of glue on the battery. Requiring repair shops to use heat, adding a huge degree of risk, and adding to the cost of the repair.
Please tell me a place where they will replace a battery for $10. Batteries themselves usually retail for $20 and then you have to account for labor.
Well I love compact phones sales suggest that they do not do very well. S10e and iPhone mini have been discontinued for that reason.
You are just including the cost of the battery. That's completely unrelated. You are all acting like there is this huge barrier to getting an inexpensive replacement.
Phones have a hardware interrupt. Just hold the power button for 30 to 45 seconds.
i sure dont miss picking up three pieces and then reassembling my phone when I dropped it. my s2 had that issue for a long time until I ditched it. maybe bad design? havent had a removable battery phone since though.
even fairly modern ones are slick, LG G4 (ok not exactly modern) is light and thin and with replacable battery. Gigaset smartphones are quite the bricks but it's actually quite hard to open the batt compartment, that's how well they're fitted.