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[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago (10 children)

If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all. —Noam Chomsky

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

I mean, sure, but does that mean people get to express themselves everywhere all the time?

I go to work and there’s always a couple fuckers who bring up their hateful opinions in a “I’m not racist but,” way.

It affects my productivity when I have to hear that bullshit all day while trying to get them to stop in a diplomatic way.

I can’t say it so directly, but it’s not censorship to say “shut up and let me work”

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago (7 children)

If they’re disturbing you from working, that’s an issue independent from the message they’re expressing, so freedom of expression does not apply.

[–] nyamlae@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

This is a stupid distinction to make. There is no speech that doesn't affect people materially.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 hours ago

That’s not what the distinction is about. The important thing is whether you want to shut them down because of what opinion they’re expressing, or how they’re expressing it.

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