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That's stupid. The damage is still done to the owner of that data used illegally. Make them destroy it.
But when you levy such miniscule fines that are less than they stand to make from it, it's just a cost of business. Fines can work if they were appropriate to the value derived.
Destroying it is both not an option, and an objectively regressive suggestion to even make.
Destruction isn't possible because even if you deleted every bit of information from every hard drive in the world, now that we know it's possible, someone would recreate it all in a matter of months.
Regressive because you're literally suggesting that we destroy a new technology because we're afraid of what it will do to the technology it replaces. Meanwhile, there's a very decent chance that AI is our best chance at solving the energy/climate crises through advancing nuclear tech, as well as surviving the next pandemic via ground breaking protein folding tech.
I realize AI tech makes people uncomfortable (for...so many reasons), but becoming old fashioned conservatives in response is not a solution.
I would take it a step further than public domain, though. I would also make any profits from illegally trained AI need to be licensed from the public. If you're going to use an AI to replace workers, then you need to pay taxes to the people proportional to what you would be paying those it replaces.
I never suggested destroying the technology that is "AI". I'm not uncomfortable about AI, I've even considered pivoting my career in that direction.
I suggested destroying the particular implementation that was trained on the illegitimate data. If someone can recreate it using legitimate data, GREAT. That's what we want to happen. The tool isn't the problem. It's the method they're using to train them.
Please don't make up random ass narratives I never even hunted at, and then argue against them.
I didn't misinterpret what you were saying, everything I said applies to the specific case you lay out. If illegal networks were somehow entirely destroyed, someone would just make them again. That's my point, there's no way around that, there's just holding people accountable when they do it. IMO that takes the form of restitutions to the people proportional to profits.
This is the dumb kind of "best do nothing, because both no is perfect" approach to making sure no disincentives are ever taken because someone somewhere else might also try to do the illegal thing that they'll lose access to the moment they're caught...
What the? I'm literally saying what action to take, what is happening? Is there maybe a bug where you only see the first few characters of my post? Are you able to read these characters I'm typing? Testing testing testing. Let me know how far you get. Maybe there's just too many words for you? Test test. Say "elephant" if you can read this.