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tl;dr: Intel and AMD are not selling their processors to Russia, and processors from Russian companies cannot be manufactured as Taiwan is banning TSMC from doing so, while Russia can only produce chips up to a 90 nm process.

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

First, Russia is able to produce their own domestic chips, second Russia can import chips from CSMC which is in China and doesn't care about US sanctions one bit. What I'm reading here is that Chinese foundries just got a big new market opened up to them without any competition.

[–] wabooti@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

First, producing silicone monocrystals does not equal the ability to produce modern chips. The only somewhat significant semiconductor producer from Russia, Mikron Group, announced in 2020 that they would start using the 65nm process, a process that has been available since 2005.

So the biggest domestic manufacturer is 15-20 years behind the West and mainland Chinese manufacturers have a global market share of 8% compared to Taiwan's 66% (and American lap dog Korea with 17%).

Sorry to break it to you buddy but its not looking good for the Russians

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You don't need modern chips for military purposes, which is the part that really needs to be domestic. Even US military uses chips that are decades old because they're considered reliable. Meanwhile, China will happily sell chips for the consumer market. China just invested 143 billion into ramping up domestic chips production, and if you think they're 15-20 years behind you're living in a fantasy land. So, not really sure what specifically you think isn't looking good for Russians here.

Meanwhile, US trying to keep China from catching up in chip tech has been an unmitigated disaster. As one of the founding fathers of America’s semiconductor industry so eloquently put it: "The US government is run by idiots who don’t understand the industry”.

And a few more articles for you to sober up on:

[–] wabooti@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Never claimed that the Chinese are that far behind but they just don't have the same production capabilities as Taiwan or Korea. That might change in a few years tho.

And I guess losing access to modern production facilities in Taiwan ain't no biggie for the Russians as they plan to produce their own 28nm chips by 2030 (28nm was introduced in 2011 btw) so maybe I'll game on a Russian CPU by 2055 lol.

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