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[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago (17 children)

OT: how would you guys recommend learning to program?

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

well, first you'll need a solid grounding in the theory of categories

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

that was a joke about abstract mathematics. anyway I'm not much of a programmer but I have found I've learned a lot from working on godot stuff, so I second that recommendation

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The only thing I’m worried about is the math, I’m flying blind there.

[–] khalid_salad@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think you would need to deliberately choose a mathematical problem to solve, otherwise the most difficult thing you'll come across will be binary representations of numbers and why floats are FUCKING BULLSHIT (seriously though they can be tricky if you think they are just "numbers in a calculator").

If you want to really understand programming language theory, or computer science more generally, you will definitely need mathematics. But if the goal is "I want to tell this chip what to do," you don't need to learn a lot of math, in my opinion.

Edit: also, if you need help with any math, feel free to DM me. I am a former math teacher and sometimes teach algorithms (basically screaming "what is your induction variable") at the undergraduate level.

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago

I appreciate that, thanks!

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

most people who are considered skilled programmers seem to know very little math (by my arbitrary standards), so I wouldn't worry about it. if you get that the remainder of 8 divided by 5 is 3 then you're 99% of the way there

There are three kinds of programmers. From smallest to largest: Those smart enough to write good math-intensive libraries, those dumb about to think they can, and those smart enough to just use what the first kind made.

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