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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (12 children)

That's right, just accuse me of lying and post ap news articles that don't disprove anything I said, and then when it turns out you were wrong...words no longer matter!

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

You're arbitrarily focusing on something Biden doesn't control while intentionally ignoring the stuff he's very clearly and intentionally done to materially support Israel. That's obviously disingenuous. Suggesting that the problem is he just doesn't have the power to do anything differently is a lie.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Suggesting that the problem is he just doesn’t have the power to do anything differently is a lie.

I wrote about things he conceivably could've done differently. I also stated some possible reasons why he didn't do those things. How is that a lie?

If a president truly wanted to stop supporting Israel, they absolutely could do it, but it would come with repercussions. Either Biden did not want to face those repercussions, or did not want to stop supporting Israel. In his case, it's probably both.

Believe it or not, some people are still outraged over the terrorist attack that occurred in October 2023. The US had a similar scale attack on 9/11/01 and launched two lengthy ass wars over it.

I don't support this shit and think it's an overreaction similar to how the "war on terror" was, but there was no choice to be made in this election cycle about this issue.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I wrote about things he conceivably could’ve done differently. I also stated some possible reasons why he didn’t do those things. How is that a lie?

Because you completely ignored the stuff he actively did to make the problem worse. It's like saying, like, "Sure, Ted Bundy could've been more supportive of women by donating or volunteering for various causes, but he was busy and short on cash. Sure, he could've done better." It's absolutely ridiculous. The lie is in the way you frame it. But Ted Bundy only killed 36 women while the weapons Joe Biden went out of his way to give to Israel have killed orders of magnitude more. So what you're saying is even more absurd that that.

Absolutely inexcusable genocide apologia.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not everyone sees it as a genocide. The political class especially doesn't see it as a genocide.

You and yours see even simple explanations of other people's viewpoints as agreeing with them...because you're simpletons.

You can keep screeching about it online all you like...making crappy analogies and apologizing for Ted Bundy? weirdly?, but there was zero choice to be made between Trump and Harris on support of Israel. Both support Israel, and Israel will continue to do whatever it wants regardless of your online bullshit.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

How on earth could you possibly read that analogy as apologizing for Ted Bundy? Can you read?

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You were saying Joe Biden is somehow worse than Ted Bundy. You're ridiculous and you're now on my block list.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

He pretty objectively is, yes. But that's not because Ted Bundy wasn't a monster, it's because Joe Biden is.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Joe biden has killed way more people than ted bundy, objectively he’s worse.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ted Bundy was politically involved too, but I guess he somehow evades blame for any of the destructive policies he supported and only gets blame for his direct actions.

You guys are space cadets.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

He was not a politician and at the end of the day he killed way less people than biden. And that just based on our support for Israel’s bullshit this go around, let alone his entire fifty year career of being a fucking war mongering asshole.

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Are you fucking serious? It’s a fucking genocide. Fuck liberals man.

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