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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (42 children)

I mean, yeah, this guy is wrong for thinking Trump will keep us out of wars, and the idea that you would vote for someone you think it like Hitler to stop new wars is both contradictory and morally reprehensible. But I've heard this take before (well, except the Hitler part, that's bat-shit insane) and it might be worth reflecting why a lot of the electorate no longer sees the Democratic party as the anti-war party. That's a big shift that's occurred in my lifetime, and it's worth examining.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (7 children)

it might be worth reflecting why a lot of the electorate no longer sees the Democratic party as the anti-war party

The only reflection I am able to accomplish is to look at the GOP and say "Worse, tho".

If you aren't voting for the lesser evil, I have to assume you hate America and want it to fail. And that's worse than genocide.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

First off, that's a ridiculous assumption. Not everyone subscribes to your ideology of lesser evilism, and the vast majority of people who correctly reject that ideology are not accelerationists.

But secondly, just curious, if I was a German citizen who hated Nazi Germany and wanted it to fail, would that make me worse than the Nazis? The Nazis were just doing genocide, after all, but I committed what is apparently a far worse sin in your eyes, of insufficient patriotism.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not everyone subscribes to your ideology of lesser evilism

If they don't subscribe to my ideology, they must be a greater evil.

if I was a German citizen who hated Nazi Germany and wanted it to fail, would that make me worse than the Nazis?

It would make you a Communist Fifth Columnist Jew-Loving Traitor and earn you a ticket straight to the camps.

The Nazis would absolutely say you were worse than them.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

The Nazis would say it, sure. Would you agree with them? Because it sort of sounds like you'd agree with them.

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