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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 25 points 2 days ago (23 children)

Am I too un-USAmerican to understand this joke?

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 73 points 2 days ago (22 children)

In the 2020 primaries, Bernie Sanders was rapidly gaining support. Based on the number of candidates and how they were splitting the vote, he stood the best chance of winning.
Then, the call went out. I'm not sure how else to describe it. All the competing candidates were in one day, and then most of them withdrew the next day and cleared the moderate field for Biden. It was a coordinated choice by a donor group or DNC or something that catapulted a mid popularity Biden to the top of the pack. Hence the calls of 'DNC sabotaged Bernie'

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

That's literally just politics. Apply the same logic to the recent french elections where competing left-wing candidates dropped out to not split the vote.

Nothing was stopping Bernie from making a deal with Amy and Pete to stay in the race to keep the centrist vote split

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's literally just politics.

This gives the same energy as saying "it's just business" after doing some heinous shit.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't let idealism blind you to reality.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm the one blind to reality? You actually think Bernie had any sway over any one of the moderates who dropped out to give Biden the win? They were loyal to the Democratic Party, not Bernie, and certainly not to their principles, if truly they had any.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 26 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

They're ambitious and self-interested. Would Pete have turned down an offer of VP to stay in the race - and potentially still win the presidential nomination - I don't think so

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If it was biden making a deal then that's one thing. I don't think that's what happened. I think the DNC power players or donors said 'we don't want Bernie' and the rest of the group fell in line.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

If that was the case then Buttigege would have just been threatend funding wise and wouldn't have needed to be offered a cabinet position, which only Biden had the power to give.

[–] tyo_ukko@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s literally just politics.

And see, that's the problem people complain about. They are doing bad politics by ganging up to the candidate that's gaining support from the people who are looking for someone different. Those people end up in Trump's camp when the Ds can only offer more corporate elites.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why is that bad politics, but dividing 60% of the democratic centerists amongs Biden, Klob, and Pete to achieve victory good politics?

Aren't you alienating the largest portion of the base who will feel cheated that their candidate only lost because the race was too crowded with centrists?

[–] tyo_ukko@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think it would be better if the voters decided to gang up on Bernie and compromise with Biden over the others. Or the other candidates didn't run at all. This way they just made a mockery of the election process.

Edit: seriously, think about it. Why are you running at all if you're fine with some other centrist taking over eventually? Just to keep up with the illusion of choice? Stay out of the race and let people see they didn't have a choice in the first place.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

So you're against candidates being able to drop out and throw their support behind one of the remaining candidates.

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