Took 2 hours of reading through examples just to deploy the site.
Turns out, it is hard to do even just the bash stuff when you can't see the container.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 36 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Normally, you don't want to commit code unless it's been at least minimally tested, and preferably more than that.

All the CI's, however, force a workflow where you can only test it by committing the code and seeing if it works. I'm not sure how to fix that, but I see the problem.

[–] houseofleft@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Here's my hot tip! (ok maybe luke warm)

Write as much of your CICD in a scripting language like bash/python/whatever. You'll be able to test it locally and then the testing phase of your CICD will just be setting up the environment so it has the right git branches coined, permissions, etc.

You won't need to do 30 commits now, only like 7! And you'll cry for only like 20 minutes instead of a whole afternoon!

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think that's the best that can be done right now.

It also leads to a different question: do we really need these fancy systems, or do we need a bunch of bash scripts with a cronjob or monitors to trigger the build?

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

In my last workplace, I was responsible for making whatever automation I wanted (others just did everything manually) and I just appended a bunch of bash scripts to the Qt Creator Build and Run commands. It easily worked pretty well.
I guess the fancy systems are again, just to add another layer of abstraction, when everything is running on their containers instead of ours.

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