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[–] Foni@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago (6 children)

The problem is that considering the Spanish PP as a center is a basic error, it is not fascist in the style of the German ultra-right, but it is more similar to Le Pen or Meloni than to Merkel, it is dominated by the most extreme wing since its foundation.

[–] Parodper@foros.fediverso.gal 2 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Unfortunately the current system doesn't allow a small center party to survive and add nuance to the political scene.

[–] Foni@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The current system DOES allow it, it's not a system like the American one, what does not allow it's the will of the voters, those on the left would be cool with the idea, but they are not going to vote for it because they are not on the left and those on the right do not like a center party. It's not the system, it's the people.

The current system DOES allow it

Technically true, not in practice. On almost half of the provinces (those with less than 4 seats)* you risk your vote going to waste if you don't vote for one of the big two parties.

it’s not a system like the American one, what does not allow it’s the will of the voters

It's the same issue, but worse in their case. The American system also allows it if only the voters massively voted for some third party.

those on the right do not like a center party.

Do they?

* In fact, you could even include those with 5 seats, which would put it over the 50% of provinces and 30% of seats.

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