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It's literally 2016 but worse somehow.

One source close to the Harris campaign tells Rolling Stone they reached out to several staffers in and around the campaign to voice concerns about the candidate embracing Dick and Liz Cheney.

“People don’t want to be in a coalition with the devil,” says the source, speaking about Dick Cheney. They say a Harris staffer responded that it was not the staff’s role to challenge the campaign’s decisions.

A Democratic strategist says they warned key Harris surrogates and top-level officials at the Democratic National Committee that campaigning with Liz Cheney — and making the campaign’s closing argument about how many Republicans were supporting Harris — was highly unlikely to motivate any new swing voters, and risked dissuading already-despondent, infrequent Democratic voters who had supported Biden in 2020. The strategist says they also attempted to have big donors and battleground state party chairs convey the same argument to the Harris campaign.

Another Democratic operative close to Harrisworld says they sent memos and data to Harris campaign staffers underscoring how, among other things, Republican voters, believe it or not, vote Republican — and that the data over the past year screamed that Democrats instead needed to reassure and energize the liberal base and Dem-leaning working class in battleground states. “We were told, basically, to get lost, no thank you,” says the operative.

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[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This country simply wanted a rapist, a criminal, they wanted a man who praises dictators

Voter participation was around 50% and some 12 million fewer people came out to vote this election. Both parties lost millions of voters, but Democrats lost more because they sold out to the donor class.

Americans don't like Trump, they have just lost faith in our broken two party system.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Right, so enough wanted the rapist, the rest were just ok with it. Lovely country, beautiful people.

[–] within_epsilon@beehaw.org 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When did this become rapist or not? The choice was between neloiberalism and populist reactionary conservativism.

I understand not making a choice let populist reactionary conservativism win. The established electoral system makes that the accepted narrative. I propose an equally valid choice is rejection of both political groups and the electoral system creating the duopoly of power.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m using it as shorthand for all the obvious criminality of the man. To elaborate, he’s a rapist, a 34 time convicted felon who steals from charity, cheats students, stiffs everyone he owes, a man who stole our national secrets, salutes and uplifts dictators, has expressed his desire to be one multiple times on the campaign trail, cages children and ran campaign focused solely on retribution and outright lies about immigrants, women and minorities.

This was an argument that could have been made during his first run; but this time, we all knew exactly what we were voting for.

[–] within_epsilon@beehaw.org 1 points 1 week ago

Agreed. He is deplorable as an individual.