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I just saw a post complaining about the Mozilla layoffs.

I wanted to point out that the vast majority of their income (over 85% in 2022) is from having Google as the default search engine - Ironically, the anti monopoly lawsuit against Google will end this.

Expect things to get worse.

Please don't assume it was just a cruel choice.

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[–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (23 children)

Mozilla does not look any reliable for people that loves FOSS, yet our current web seems like it's either Firefox/Gecko or Chrome/Chromium browsers. I wish people were more aware of emergent projects like Servo or Ladybird - even better if they could donate to them. I'm positive either of them could be a serious competitor to the Chrome hegemony.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago (18 children)

You are really underestimating the complexity of the task of building a web engine.

Another problem is that Chrome is already ubiquitous and most of the web sites are simply ignoring the Gecko and only optimise against Chromium.

Don't get me wrong, I truly wish we had more completion and I hope those projects take off and with time become a viable alternative of Chromium but I am somehow doubtful.

[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

You're right about the fact that building an engine is hard, but Socraticly speaking, then why are there so many blink-based browsers and so few gecko-based ones? The answer is because blink is easy to embed in a new project and gecko isn't.

If Mozilla really wants to take back the web (and I honestly don't think they actually do), then what they should really be doing is making gecko as easy to embed in a new browser as blink is. They don't do this, and I suspect that they have ulterior motives for doing so, but if they did, I think we would be much closer to breaking chrome's grasp on the web.

Because let's face it: Mozilla makes a pretty damn good browser engine. But they don't really make a compelling browser based off it. Ever noticed how Mozilla has been declining ever since they deprecated XPCOM extensions? It's because when they provided XPCOM, it enabled users to actually build cool and interesting new features. And now that they've taken it away, all innovation in browser development has stagnated (save for the madlads making Vivaldi).

They need to empower others to build the browser that they can't. That's what would really resurrect the glory days of Firefox in my opinion.

[–] halm@leminal.space 7 points 1 week ago

I suspect that they have ulterior motives

Rather than guessing at the motives of others, let's remember Hanlon's razor.

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