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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (8 children)

The civil rights movement did not succeed because of Martin Luther King Jr's peaceful speech, it succeeded because the Black Panthers bought a firearms en masse and took their rights.
We didn't win the revolutionary war because we asked nicely and protested peacefully, we won because we ignored the standards of chivalry in war at the time and fought like guerillas.
Anyone who says violence isn't the answer has never studied history.
Violence is the only thing that's ever worked.

[–] cacheson@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This is probably a bit too reductive. Violence is sometimes necessary, but isn't always the best strategy.

In general, the left should take an approach of nonviolent, disruptive agitation, combined with a willingness to use violence in self-defense. Arm up, protect each other, but don't try to instigate a shooting war.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

No. The left should use violence as the tool it is that has always gotten results. Every right and freedom has come from the blood of those who fought.

Leave the peaceful donothings to the lib/centrists, because they won’t do shit anyway.

[–] cacheson@piefed.social 2 points 21 hours ago

It smells like Fed in here. ಠ_ಠ

Anarchists have a significant history of using "Propaganda of the Deed" and accomplishing fuck all with it. No shortage of examples among the history of the broader left, too. So yeah, I'm gonna have to call BS on this.

Violence is a tool, and there's a time and place for it. Don't be an idiot adventurist about it though.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 3 points 1 day ago

If you're going to use violence, be very smart about your targets who, where, how. You want those in power to fear, not the average gun toting American who is just trying to pay rent and buy food. If you make that population fear for their lives they won't hesitate to kill you and in most of this country they could do so legally.

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