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He then ends up suggesting the reason they don't like Harris is because she's a woman -

“Because part of it makes me think – and I’m speaking to men directly – part of it makes me think that, well, you just aren’t feeling the idea of having a woman as president, and you’re coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for that.”

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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (21 children)

Black celebrities have been poisoning the community against Obama for over a decade now. Parading him around as the "token black guy" of the liberal movement isn't the move. Making policies that help the community, and actually getting them passed, is what will make the difference. Until the Democrats start actually giving a shit about black people, instead of virtue signalling, then the black voter doesn't have any reason to vote. No one is on their side. Will Kamala change that? Honestly, probably not. Tim Walz has a better chance of that.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (20 children)

Making policies that help the community, and actually getting them passed, is what will make the difference.

We can't pass any policy anywhere in the country without bipartisan support and the blessing of the courts. Since the Republicans are in opposition and the courts are stacked with cranks, that means the best we can promise is that one day we'll have a Democrat Supermajority capable of passing compromise legislation with its more right-wing members.

Sorry, but these are just the rules, which are immutable and which we must abide by no matter how much pain they cause to our constituents.

Also, please note that conservatives are fully unbound by these rules. They can and will inflict incalculable harm on you if any single branch is in their control. There is, unfortunately, nothing liberals can do about this because interrupting the harm caused by the rules-breakers would be against the rules.

So the message we need to bring to black voters is that they only have themselves to blame if things get worse. It's cake or death and we're all out of cake.

No one is on their side. Will Kamala change that? Honestly, probably not. Tim Walz has a better chance of that.

Glances at Walz's record during the Minnesota BLM protests

Oof. I would not bank on it.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Isn’t the problem when the Democrats controlled the house and senate with Obama he did nothing with it.

[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not an American, but didn't Obama's administration make an enormous positive change to healthcare in the US via the ACA?

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

They did, and shit like that takes years to make happen thanks to how slow the government was intentionally set up to be.

But that's a convenient fact that is often left out.

[–] farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

No, it was very similar to a 1993 republican backed bill. It still left millions of people without care and did nothing to curb the actual cause of runaway medical costs in the US. Obama campaigned on getting affordable healthcare for all Americans then in classic Dem fashion intentionally fumbled the plan because the same wealthy donors that fund republicans also control the Dems.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Obama explicitly stated that his goal for immigration and climate reform was 70-80 "Yes" votes in the Senate. He spent months attempting to negotiate with Lindsey Graham, John McCain, and Susan Collins, who just ran him in a big circle to burn out the clock until mid-terms.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Democrats had a supermajority only for a few months.

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