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Minnesota Governor Tim Walz saw a significant bump in polling after Tuesday night's vice presidential debate in New York, surpassing Ohio Senator JD Vance in postdebate momentum.

The showdown saw the two candidates largely focus on differences, with Vance repeatedly hitting Vice President Kamala Harris on border security, while Walz lambasted former President Donald Trump on abortion rights. Newsweek has contacted the Vance and Walz campaigns for comment via email.

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According to the poll, the Minnesota governor saw a 23-point boost in his favorability ratings, going up from +14 to +37. Meanwhile, Vance saw a 19-point boost in his favorability ratings, going up from -22 to -3.


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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago (7 children)

But obviously he did, enough people saw that and said "Yeah, That's my guy" that his net favorability rating is up 19 points. It's still negative, but the fact it went up at all is troubling.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 61 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I don’t like him at all, but he was articulate and not at all unhinged. He also hammered on the magic words that T somehow failed on: she’s been in office, where are her changes? (Yes, the VP job is a minimal role unless you’re Dick Cheney, but it works as effective perception management on most people.)

Walz looked like he was sweating into his suit when the debate started, but then warmed up.

The ending on Vance’s refusal to admit Trump lost in 2020, or to answer the question on whether or not he’d certify was really damning.

[–] commandar@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I don’t like him at all, but he was articulate and not at all unhinged.

I get what you mean here, but it's also what makes Vance and whatever else comes after Trump so dangerous: the bar has been lowered so far that people now view "able to form coherent sentences" as "not at all unhinged."

The man stood there and repeated the bald faced lie about Haitian migrants' legal status and then had a temper tantrum that the rules said he wasn't supposed to be fact-checked.

The substance of what he was saying was absolutely unhinged. But the Overton window has shifted so far that, because his delivery was neatly packaged, it doesn't look that bad compared to what we've gotten used to.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago

Yeah, my father in law made some comment about "this debate is so much better than the last one" and I'm like...yeah, the word salad is replaced with Coherent English lies, but that's not a great step up.

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