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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 148 points 2 days ago (29 children)

I love how people are complaining about Wayland not being ready or being unstable (whatever that even means, because it's a protocol), while it's the default on both GNOME and Plasma now, which combined probably run on more than 50% of Linux desktops these days.

And not only that, but Cinnamon, Xfce and others want to follow, so very clearly people who know a fair bit about desktops seem to disagree with Wayland being "not ready".

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Ironically enough just 2 days ago I posted this https://lemmy.ml/post/20691536/13906950 namely how the 1st thing I do after installing NVIDIA drivers on Debian is disabling Wayland to rely on X11 simply because it doesn't work.

Sadly that's relevant here precisely because if we are talking about Valve it's about gaming, if it's about gaming one simply can't ignore the state of NVIDIA drivers.

So... it might run on 50% on Linux desktops but on mine, which I also game on, it never worked once I had drivers for gaming installed. Consequently I understand "how people are complaining" because that's exactly my experience.

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s NVIDIA’s fault for refusing to adopt the agreed upon methods for rendering graphics on Linux. They tried to force EGLStreams on everybody for almost a decade while knowing GBM was better.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely, I'm not blaming any Wayland implementation about this, just giving my current situation as an example.

I do so because I imagine it's a popular setup (according to https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-vs-nvidia-which-more-popular-linux based on ProtonDB data, more than 60% Linux gamers had an NVIDIA GPU) and thus might prevent adoption.

I hope NVIDIA will fix that. Maybe a push from Valve would help.

[–] tekato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah. Unfortunately most consumers buy NVIDIA, even though they only care about the enterprise sector.

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