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[–] Findmysec@infosec.pub 4 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Explain how other init systems are necessarily worse than systemd

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

SystemD is not an init system. It provides that functionality, but processes have more life cycle steps than just initialize.

When you accept that, you realise that you cannot compare them.

SystemD provides functionality that they don't. Of course those that refuse to consider this will just claim it's bloat. To some DE's are bloat.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Two questions:

  • do you admit that, comparing only its functionalities as an init system, systemd provides no benefits over alternatives?
  • what non-init functionalities does systemd provide, which are necessary and beats competition from other software that provides those features?

Sure, the alternative init systems don't provide non init functionalities, but other software probably does.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  1. no. Processes have a life cycle other than init. Fire and forget with bash scripts is backwards.

  2. I am no expert on this and could not do this answer justice. A quick search will provide a better and more detailed answer. That is if you are willing to consider that SystemD provides benefits. The way you wrote your question gives me vibes that you do not want to, so this debate would be fruitless.

If you're genuinely curious Benno Rice has a great talk on SystemD: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo&pp=2AHFBpACAQ%3D%3D

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