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[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

What not many people are touching on:

In 2, the owner of the building likely owns the rest of the land as well as the apartment. You are a slave to the owner as he owns the island and your "beautiful view" will either be absolutely not developed at all so it is difficult to use as a park or a source of food without explicit consent from your ruler. No community gardens without tons of power tripping and infighting of course either.

In 2, the owner of the apartment and land can and will bulldoze the entire forest and completely pave it over if there is the slightest hint that he can make more money that way, then jack up your rent for the privelage of living in a hellhole. Conservation of nature my ass. The building owner has a 99% chance about not giving a shit about conserving the rest. They will turn it into monoculture or cattle farming or a parking lot and stores. This post is literally landlord propaganda.

Edit: owns the apartment building, not apartment.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 17 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

You're assuming that in 1 you own the property and in 2nd you're renting. A strawman argument if I ever saw one.

[–] scholar@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Even if you own your apartment in 2, you still likely don't own the building

[–] Michal@programming.dev 13 points 2 weeks ago

You don't have to own the building. It's not like a trailer park where you have to lease the land. You pay management fees for upkeep and you get a say in how you want the building managed.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Typically apartment blocks are owned and managed by a HOA.

[–] VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's where then fun starts. You "own" your apartment but can't do shit without approval by 20 nimbys. Also you pay into a HOA fund for general stuff.

Owning apartments is the worst of both worlds. Get a huge loan just and still don't get to do with your property what you want. It's "property" commodified and enshittyficated. But what can one do these days? Buy a house? hahahahaha.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It seems only Americans actually have this problem though. Rarely here complaints over here about HOAs.

There are European countries that have similar systems for apartment buildings where every unit is owend by a different person.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

enshittyficated

Lmao. This argument isn't worth having.

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