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    [–] President@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago (34 children)

    Wait... I'm just about to switch over to Linux on a laptop and was going to use Ubuntu. This looks kind of cursed though?

    [–] smpl@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    You could try out Linux Mint¹, they're Ubuntu based and disable Snap by default².

    1. https://linuxmint.com
    2. https://linuxmint-user-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/snap.html
    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Linux mint has no GNOME or KDE variant, so while they fix many Ubuntu issues, they are still on XOrg.

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    So? There's nothing preventing someone from installing either, and they're adding Wayland support to Cinnamon.

    [–] rbits@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

    I did just that when I first switched to Linux, I installed KDE Neon on Linux Mint. And it broke everything. And when I went to forums to ask for help everyone yelled at me. So maybe don't recommend installing KDE on Linux Mint.

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    True one can install it on Mint. But at that level, just

    • install Kubuntu
    • add timeshift
    • run unsnap (removes snap, installs flatpak and flathub, installs apps as flatpaks)
    • add the new official deb repo for Firefox
    • remove a possibly installed Firefox Flatpak (has missing sandboxing) and install with apt
    [–] JackRiddle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    While this is not that hard to do if you're used to linux, I would not reccommend this to someone who is switching from windows.

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 months ago

    Yeah probably. Installing Mint and GNOME or Plasma on there will be waay easier.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Use flatpak

    Also how do you know snap will stay removed? I wouldn't be surprised if it magically came back. Might as well use something that's a little more respectful of your rights. Pop OS or Fedora seem like good choices if you just want gnome wayland. If you want KDE go for Fedora KDE

    [–] Mio@feddit.nu 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I moved to Fedora kde. Smaller, newer packages(kde 6), and wayland updated.

    There is no reason to fight Ubuntu, just pick something that is not against your priorties. I came from Windows 10 and there was a lot of fighting for respecting user choice.

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I would never use dnf Fedora again, it is an unstable mess.

    I am on Kinoite since a year or more? Works great. Fedoras Packages are awesome, stable and often better than Uwuntu or OpenSUS

    But dnf upgrades simply were extremely unreliable.

    It doesnt matter how your distro looks, thats the desktop.

    It matters how it backups, upgrades, recovers.

    [–] Mio@feddit.nu 2 points 2 months ago

    Use timeshift on your brtf partions. Also dnf5 is soon coming and going to be default.

    So far no problem at all for me. It is also pretty fast to reinstall if needed.

    [–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    • install Kubuntu

    Or even better, install KDE Neon. Same as Kubuntu, but with less bloat and the latest KDE Plasma.

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

    Haha no, not even KDE devs use it.

    I am on Fedora Kinoite and happy. But this was about Ubuntu, and Fedora simply serves a different use case. Kubuntu and KDE Neon are both Ubuntu LTS.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

    It is a work in progress. Also I don't think it is going to matter that much for most people. Worse case you can install gnome on Linux Mint.

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