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Great, another article with a misleading headline, and when you read the article the crucial bit is in the last line, where its mentioned its likely an accidental discharge.
Seems like other news sources are mentioning this more explicitly.
Still shouldnt be waving guns around, or have them at all IMO, but thats no excuse for the poor framing of the article by the author.
Edit: I get it, we call them negligent discharges now. Doesnt change my point. This is not a random fit of murderous rage, its a mishandled firearm.
Can't talk about how dangerous guns are though right.
Accidental discharges don’t exist. They are called negligent discharges because guns don’t fire accidentally.
...guns dont fire accidentally
Oh yes they do, and its a contingency in any theater of war. New guns are required to be safer but old guns that are less safe still exist and are in use. I was raised shooting guns well older than I was...or am.
And they can misfire which often means clearing a cartridge that might still go off. Fun times.
They can definitely misfire, but humans are more likely to misfire
When the adrenaline is pumping, it's real easy to squeeze slightly harder... That's why your finger shouldn't be on the trigger until you're ready to shoot
You want to tell me your gun shot two rounds instead of one? I can believe that. You want to tell me a cold gun, with a round in the chamber for more than 5 seconds, suddenly decided to override the required mechanical safety because you waved it around?
she took a loaded gun out and pointed it at the windshield. it goes off. says it was an accidential discharge. you believe it. you go and type it on the internet.
Isn't like one of the basic rules of gin ownership that you only point a gun at someone you are going to kill?
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It's a rule of firearm safety. Unfortunately, in the US you don't need to follow those or many rules for ownership.
4 rules of firearm safety:
1-treat every firearm as if it's loaded
2-don't point your firearm at anything you don't intend to destroy
3-keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire
4-know your target, backstop, and beyond
Bonus 5- don't do anything stupid
Yes. There is also supposed to be "trigger discipline". Your finger should be kept to the side and not on the trigger until you intend to shoot.
In the US, in order to drive a scooter (like a Vespa) you need to take a basic motorcycle safety class. No such requirement exists to carry a gun.
Yeah. This is bullshit. The person took a gun out and pointed it at someone. There’s nothing accidental about that. You’re 100% right, you never point a gun at something/one you don’t intend to shoot. So this soft apologist language of “accidental” doesn’t fly.
Absolutely, and I think this person should be charged for it. I don't think its accurate to say he got out of his truck and immediately decided to shoot them in the face.
This should be a discussion about how easy it is to mishandle a gun. All these people quoting the four rules just haven't broken them lately, but they have broken them.
Its impossible to be safe around guns when people are involved. Name a place and group of people that is safe with guns and I'll show you an example of one of them using them incorrectly.
The victims said it. Like I said, still wrong, but different wrong. Nuance is dead to you people.
Oh and my favorite part is where pointing out details means I'm defending someone else.
The guy should go to prison for it. Does that make you happy?
Not she, dude did it, she wasn't home.
Drawing a gun is murderous because it suggests an intent to use it. If you don't draw a gun, you don't accidentally shoot someone. Words can solve a lot of problems. There's really no need for violence and assuming it's needed is flawed logic.
Just to add on to your excellent point here, this is often outlined in many forms of training. Never draw if you don't intend to use it. Brandishing is the stupidest shit possible.
Brandishing a firearm when not in fear for your life is illegal.
HE AIMED HIS FIREARM AT A CHILD IN A VEHICLE.
Accidental discharge my ass, you don't play with firearms you treat them as if they're loaded and ready to go at all times BECAUSE LAZINESS KILLS PEOPLE.
An accidental discharge goes into the sky or the ground. This fucker was AIMING AT THE KIDS HEAD.
Sounds like BS. Everyone knows you only point a gun at something you intend to destroy, and you keep the safety on until you are absolutely sure. This guy did neither, he's just lying at this point.
I don't think anyone outside of the US is going to care at all about this distinction. I know I don't. Accidentally shooting someone because you're an idiot with a gun is just another reason why people shouldn't be allowed to own and carry guns.
The reason I bring it up is because americans are again going to say this was just an idiot with a gun.
He took training classes just like everyone else in here shouting about gun safety. He is a town councilman. He is not an idiot with a gun, he's an above average example of an American, which should be terrifying.
The takeaway here is that America has too few regulations on firearms. In fact it should be flipped, where noone gets a gun unless they have a proven need for one.
This wasn't "negligence" or "accidental". He was deliberately pointing the gun at the individual. It wasn't unintentionally pointed at him. It wasn't accidentally pointed at him. The bullet didn't unexpectedly ricochet off of something to hit the teen. He deliberately chose to point a gun at another person. That deliberate handling of the gun eliminates the possibility of "negligence".
I don't quite know how you didn't, but you managed to piss off both gun owners and hoplophobes with that comment, and those groups can't seem to agree on anything else.
How is it misleading? Shot in the face.. that did happen.