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[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (20 children)

Lead dev of grapheneos is extremely toxic in communication. I don't trust someone like that developing the software running on a phone.

EDIT: This comment seems to be particularly controversial, with many people praising GrapheneOS as a project, while ignoring the developers views and actions. Although my opinion of the main developer is negative, the project itself and its goals are great. To clear up some confusion, I want to add to my previous statement:

At first, this seems like the standard "separating art from the artist", however, GrapheneOS is a ton of code, not just art. When it comes to other forms of art, like literature or paintings, an artist maliciously hiding their personal beliefs in their otherwise "unbiased" work might degrade the quality of the final result, but does not have much significant impact outside of that. When it comes to code, programs, OSes, this changes. The artist (programmer) changing their art (code) based on their personal beliefs is not just a degradation in quality, but a security risk for anyone running the code and trusting the developer. Having seen the way the GOS dev speaks about its community and even people in support of him (see Louis Rossman's video), it becomes clear that the mentioned "risk" of malware is very much present. Like many others, I don't have the time to verify the source code of an entire Android rom myself, which means I would have to trust the GOS dev to not insert anything malicious, after the statements he's made. I'd have to trust him after he's grouped a majority of his community into "people who are after him and are swatting him". It's a very real possibility that someone with beliefs like that would add malicious code to his project, and I'm personally not willing to run that risk.

Please note that I am not encouraging people to "go harass the dev", that is an immoral action nobody should be doing. I am trying to inform people of the developers behavior online, past and current, so they can make a decision for themselves whether to run his software on their personal devices.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I know Daniel somewhat from some years back, and calling him extremely toxic is just wrong. He is and has always been rather bad at communication under stress and is clearly on the spectrum in some way. Technically a genius person, but perhaps doesn't have the right set of qualities to lead things, except from a strictly technical pov.

Very good decision from him to withdraw from social media. I hope he manages to contribute in the future.

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 5 points 2 weeks ago

is clearly on the spectrum in some way

This is not an excuse to behave the way he does.

Very good decision from him to withdraw from social media

He hasn't, still on github, still on HN.

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