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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (17 children)

“Hydrogen is the Future” - sponsored by Shell

After years of denialism and fucking up our planet these cunts want to sell us the solution to the problem they caused so that we stay dependent on their supply chain and pipelines.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (14 children)

The one case I have seen for hydrogen, that might be useful, is that when things like solar energy generation, create and overload of power, it can be used to create hydrogen, then the hydrogen can be stored, and used for a variety of ways to power things, in a largely eco-friendly, way. Otherwise... yeah.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Losses stack up for hydrogen. It's kinda of a bad battery and storage is dangerous. Fuel cells are bulky and fragile.

Right now, it's relatively viable because we get it as a petrolium byproduct. But that version doesn't burn very clean.

Once we're using solar at home, it's green, but you're chewing through freshwater which isn't ideal.

Something like sodium ion batteries would be better is most ways. (Other than refilling cars in a gas station)

[–] Scribbd@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They aim for the same production -opoly (I forgot the real name and I am too tired to look it up) they have now. In the market where demand and supply are what set prices, the one who makes the supply AND sells it is king.

Hydrogen 'is the future' not because it is, but because it fits their current business model the best.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah, and we don't have to change our own model. You pull up to a gas station pop out I spent canister pop a new canister in and drive off. You get to keep your internal combustion engine, No shake up in any market segment.

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