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As Vice President Kamala Harris received the presidential nomination at the 2024 Democratic National Convention (DNC), thousands of people marched near the convention demanding an end to U.S. arms shipments to Israel and the war on Gaza. The protesters, led by Palestinian and Jewish activists, represented a diverse coalition including anti-war veterans, climate justice activists, and labor organizers. Despite efforts by Democrats to keep the Palestine issue sidelined, the marchers made their voices heard, declaring Harris and President Joe Biden complicit in the genocide in Gaza. The protesters came from communities and movements that are often considered part of the Democratic coalition, warning that their votes could not be taken for granted unless the party takes concrete action to end the occupation and devastation in Palestine. Organizers estimate around 30,000 people demonstrated in Chicago over the course of the week, making Palestine impossible to ignore during the convention. The activists drew connections between the struggle for Palestinian liberation and the fight against racist violence and state repression in the U.S., challenging the Democratic Party's complicity in both. The protests encountered a heavy police presence, with hundreds of riot police surrounding the march at all times. Despite the tension, the demonstration remained largely peaceful as the protesters demanded justice for Palestine. As Kamala Harris prepared to take the stage, the marchers continued their chants and songs, determined to keep the spotlight on the ongoing catastrophe in Gaza and the Democratic Party's failure to address it.

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (71 children)

These protests make little sense to me. I fully support the goals of the protesters. I am opposed to Israel's actions in Gaza that are clearly aimed at a Palestinian genocide. However, I don't see how these protests are supposed to help achieve the goal of ending the violence and suffering of the Palestinian people. In fact, if they do anything at all, they will only help Trump get elected.

These protesters should be going after every member of congress that has supported the continued shipment of weapons to Israel, republican and democrat alike, but where have they been? They should have been out supporting democrats like Jamaal Bowman who lost his primary to a moderate, pro-Israel democrat because of AIPAC. AIPAC who has spent more than $15 million dollars this season to try and unseat progressive democrats who have supported their cause. These protesters should have been out protesting AIPAC but haven't heard a peep from them.

Now, here they are harassing the only presidential candidate on the ballot that might possibly support them if she wins, but who cannot say that now because if she does, AIPAC will drop $10s of millions of dollars to oppose her and potentially cost her the election. And that is the only thing these protests can accomplish. If protesters succeed in turning voters against Harris, where are those votes going to go? Either to a man who has stated that he fully supports Israel's actions and that he just wants them to hurry up and get it done, or to a third party candidate who cannot possibly win but could siphon enough votes from Harris so that Trump could win anyway.

I can't help but think that these well meaning protesters are being manipulated by the powers that be to undermine their own goals. Stop attacking democrats in general and start supporting progressives who support your cause.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (47 children)

My question to the people withholding their vote because of Gaza is: what is your plan to support the Palestinian people when Trump gets in? How will you be supporting them when Trump starts calling for nukes? What will you be doing when Trump decides to use the US military to suppress protests?

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Some of us aren't "witholding" our vote at all.

I'm voting third party. Because I believe in the party I'm voting for.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Depending on which state you live in, a 3rd party vote is equivalent to a vote for Trump when everything is said and done.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Yeah. Unfortunately, people who love genocide want the guy who bombed the fuck out of Yemen to take over next year. It's tough to read those guys urging others to take the same position and pretending it is normal.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago

a 3rd party vote is equivalent to a vote for Trump

A third-party vote is a vote for the candidate I believe in, not an automatic vote for Trump or anyone else.

My voting reflects my values, and I'm not driven by fear of an outcome.

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