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Everywhere I look there are people advocating for defederation from this and that! Do you even understand what you're suggesting? Do you get what's the point of decentralized social media and activity pub?

This is supposed to be free and accessible for everyone. We all have brains and can decide who to interact with.

If meta or any other company manages to create a better product it's just natural that people tend to use it. I won't use it, you may not use it and it's totally fine! It's about having options. Also as Mastodon's CEO pointed out there's no privacy concern, everything stays on your instance.

Edit: after reading and responding to many comments, I should point out that I'm not against defederation in general. It's a great feature if used properly. Problem is General Instances with open sign-ups and tens of thousands of users making decisions on par of users and deciding what they can and can not see.

If you have a niche or small community with shared and agreed upon values, defederating can be great. But I believe individual users are intelligent enough to choose.

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[–] rowdyrockets@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Calling people little dictators because they want to cut out the vitriol that is the Facebook/Instagram community is ridiculous. I’m in the opinion of quality over quantity - having been on Facebook, there is nothing of value being posted.

I am not demanding to defederate, I am asking. I think the decision is ultimately the admin’s but I hope they’ll listen if the majority’s vote, regardless of what that is.

If Lemmy.world chooses not to defederate from Meta, I won’t be upset - I’ll simply move to an instance that does. Truly the power of the fediverse is the ability to choose.

[–] RxBrad@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I dunno. I just stumbled on a movement to push instance owners to defederate any instance that doesn't defederate Threads.

This seems very much in the vein of dictatorialism / authoritarianism. It's honestly just gross. This whole "you're either with us or against us" tribalism is what has made social media so awful these last several years.

[–] Arn_Thor@lemmy.fmhy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Not exactly. state actors and political party-sponsored troll farms have nurtured that tribalism and dialed it up for the past decade while the companies running the platforms stood by and raked in the cash because anger is engagement is money.

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