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A federal judge yesterday ordered the Biden administration to halt a wide range of communications with social media companies, siding with Missouri and Louisiana in a lawsuit that alleges Biden and his administration violated the First Amendment by colluding with social networks "to suppress disfavored speakers, viewpoints, and content."

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[–] czech@no.faux.moe 41 points 1 year ago (135 children)

This is about attempts to stop folks from spreading provably wrong info online that's killing people. It's like protecting the free speech of someone yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.

The headline is also overstated. Its a preliminary injunction and of course its from a Trump nominee.

But Judge Terry Doughty, a Trump nominee at US District Court for the Western District of Louisiana, granted the plaintiffs' request for a preliminary injunction imposing limits on the Department of Health and Human Services, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,

[–] CoCoIchibanCurry@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (132 children)

But if the government can pressure platforms to remove provably false information that is actively killing people, it will have a chilling effect on my constitutional freedom to lie to people. Won't somebody please think of the grifters and anti-sciencers?

[–] jimbolauski@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (123 children)

Was it antiscience to say covid originated in a lab in China?

Was it antiscience to say 2 weeks to flatten the curve was BS?

Was it antiscience to say cloth masks were ineffective?

Was it antiscience to question the long term efficacy of a drug that was not studied for the long term?

Was it antiscience to question the long term side effects of a drug that was not studied for the long term?

At one point or another every one of those questions was considered antiscience and is now begrudgingly accepted by the experts.

[–] djgb@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Was it antiscience to say covid originated in a lab in China?
YES, there was little evidence AND there still isn't conclusive evidence that it was. They just used it as a reason to be racist toward Asian (and it did provably increase hate crime toward Asian people).

Was it antiscience to say 2 weeks to flatten the curve was BS?
YES, if people would have actually isolated, we would have had far fewer cases shortly after.

Was it antiscience to say cloth masks were ineffective?
YES, they are still effective and far better than not wearing a mask at all.

Was it antiscience to question the long term efficacy/long term side effects (I'm combining 2 questions here) of a drug that was not studied for the long term?
YES, the vaccine was not given to people widespread until after thorough testing. It's fact that almost any vaccine side effect will occur within the first few weeks of it being administered. There was also information and testing about the efficacy before it was widely distributed.

People questioning this stuff were given the answers by scientists, specialists, people with knowledge, and they outright denied the truth of the data. It's one thing to question, it's another thing to yell questions into the void and pretend you don't hear the answers.

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