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[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 119 points 1 year ago (15 children)

XMPP did not exist on its own outside of nerd circles, while ActivityPub enjoys the support and brand recognition of Mastodon.

Jabber was widely used in the early 2000s and not just among "nerds." But Rochko would have only been 7+ years old at the time so how would he know that.

The "brand recognition of Mastodon" part makes me think this has to be a joke... right?

[–] emag@infosec.pub 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I recall, it was FB & Google federation of XMPP, and a huge number of various IM bridges that made XMPP usable at the time. I did have my own server, and all the nerd/geek friends I knew (so the vast majority of my friends) did the same. I even set up a servers at $job[-2] for intra-office communication, but still couldn't get decent buy-in.

These days, aside from a few die-hards, I don't personally know anyone using XMPP. I even ended up removing my server a while ago, because it had been years since I even launched a client to connect to it and not chat with anyone...

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Google Talk was using XMPP from 2006-2013. Facebook Chat was using XMPP from 2010-2014.

It was these two services that killed all the prior messaging apps (and eventually XMPP too), and I was referring to the before-times.

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