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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 41 points 3 months ago (20 children)

Amd processors have literally always been a better value and rarely have been surpassed by much for long. The only problem they ever had was back in the day they overheated easily. But I will never ever buy an Intel processor on purpose, especially after this.

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (12 children)

The only problem they ever had was back in the day they overheated easily.

That's not true. It was just last year that some of the Ryzen 7000 models were burning themselves out from the insides at default settings (within AMD specs) due to excessive SoC voltage. They fixed it through new specs and working with board manufacturers to issue new BIOS, and I think they eventually gave in to pressure to cover the damaged units. I guess we'll see if Intel ends up doing the same.

I generally agree with your sentiment, though. :)

I just wish both brands would chill. Pushing the hardware so hard for such slim gains is wasting power and costing customers.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That’s not true. It was just last year that some of the Ryzen 7000 models were burning themselves

I think he was referring to "back-in-the-day" when Athlons, unlike the competing Pentium 3 and 4 CPUs of the day, didn't have any thermal protections and would literally go up in smoke if you ran them without cooling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRn8ri9tKf8

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When I started using computers, I wasn't aware of any thermal protections in popular CPUs. Do you happen to know when they first appeared in Intel chips?

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 3 points 3 months ago

Pentium 2 and 3 had rudimentary protection. They would simply shutdown if they got too hot. Pentium 4 was the first one that would throttle down clock speeds.

Anything before that didn't have any protection as far as I'm aware.

[–] RdVortex@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Some motherboards did have overheating protection back then though. Personally I had my Athlon XP computer randomly shut down several times back then, because the system had some issue, where fans would randomly start slowing down and eventually completely stop. This then triggered overheat protection of the motherboard, which simply cut the power as soon as the temperature was too hight.

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