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[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (14 children)

Again, for the record, Peter Cooper is the record holder for oldest Nominee. Trump is second and Biden is third(albeit Biden is still older by the Reagan metric of end of office if Trump ends up losing or dies midway through). If you wanna say oldest REPUBLICAN ever go for it, that's a far safer claim that's not made incorrect thanks to Peter Cooper or vulnerable to debating the exact definition like Biden is(like he was A Nominee in the primaries, he just didn't become THE Nominee). Also making this argument makes the 'Biden should resign' thing worse so, maybe hold off on that. There's plenty of legitimate anti-Trump arguments that can be expressed as simple factual statements. Trump is rapist. No need to get into the age shit

[–] Birdie@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How about Trump is the oldest nominee of any major political party? Would that be accurate?

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or the oldest nominee in living memory?

[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mostly true. You could argue if Major Primary Contenders should be counted(Top 3 would be unchanged) and Biden is still the older President, Trump would have to win and make it to his 4th and final year to beat that. Reagan issue, people debated the definition back in 2016 too.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

Considering they said nominee, not major party, I think maybe major party nominee should not be counted.

[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The definition of major party was fuzzy back in the civil war reconstruction era

[–] Birdie@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

He was nominated by the Greenback party, (third party) running against the Democrat and Republican nominees. He had less than 1% chance to win according to his wiki. I'd say that no matter how fuzzy the definition of major party is, the Greenbacks weren't that.

He sounds like he was an intelligent person who was concerned with social justice, especially for the native tribes.

[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah this was in the era of the Know Nothings so that's good

[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Fair enough, but still, saying Trump is the oldest nominee ever, period, is wrong. He's Number 2(albeit he'd have to last his whole term to beat Biden, similar to his prior age thing with Reagan in 2016) behind Cooper.

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