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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Yeah, I’m still on the fence with what happened after the me-too stuff. Some women spoke out against him, but several independent investigations were not able to substantiate the claims. And after different organizations did their own investigations, they all came to the same conclusions, and let him keep his projects and jobs.

[–] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (10 children)

He’s also just a bit of a prick regardless. There are so many more entertaining science personalities that don’t act pompous as fuck.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

I think "prick" is a bit far. I don't think I've ever gotten any malice or ill-intent from him. He's just a very blunt speaker who may not immediately recognize the social repercussions of what he's saying in the moment. I think he recognizes this and constantly apologizes for the way he speaks.

[–] undefinedValue@programming.dev -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not a fan of Joe Rogan but I did watch clips of his interview with Neil and prick definitely seemed like an appropriate term for him after that. Watch the clips if you don’t believe me.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I watched them. There's nothing there that is aggressive at all. He very clearly laid out and explained the issues with the ideas put forth by the ideas in that paper, and explicitly said why he did it that way (that's how a colleague in science would note things), and further said if you're to be taken seriously, you should expect such feedback from peers who are reviewing your work. That's quite accurate.

What was your take on this that sounds negative?

[–] undefinedValue@programming.dev -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

He interrupted Joe constantly and came off as arrogant, condescending and abrasive.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qwZXR2PlcEM

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh no...Joe Rogan gets interrupted by a certified genius in between idiotic thoughts.

[–] undefinedValue@programming.dev -2 points 2 months ago

Hmm, so you’re now arguing in bad faith, that took a turn. I’m officially out as you seem to think it’s OK to be rude and condescend if you’re a “certified genius”. I must be speaking with a certified genius here, I had no idea.

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