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For just about all former soviet states, the N word is the term used to describe black people, because the word imported from Europe to describe Africans. It doesn't have the connotations or baggage that westerners attach to it. Diddo for blackface and sambo imagery, it's usually used more out of ignorance than malice.
Anyone volunteering to beak barriers in that part of the world has their work cut out for them.
You can not say these things do not have "the connotations or baggage" (how dismissive) that "westerners attach to it." The N word is an English word with one use, dehumanizing people of African ancestry. Blackface and Sambo imagery are also borne of white supremacist ideals and dehumanizing Africans. That is specifically where this stuff comes from. There is no alternative interpretation. You could maybe say someone is ignorant of the history of the N word, but if you are not racist garbage, the intent of blackface and Sambo imagery is very clear without needing a history lesson. Acting as an apologist for racists is functionally the same as being racist. I'm sure you've heard the expression about having dinner with 9 Nazis. 10 Nazis are having dinner.
I am only going to be expanding on your discussion of the N-word specifically, and not the larger discussion. While the N-word is abominable in English, because the word for black in a lot of languages came from the Latin word "nigreos", a lot of languages have words that sound like the N-word but are not. The word just means the color black. That's just the etymology of the Latin word. If you have personal experience living in those areas then I'll definitely add more weight to your comment, because I haven't.
While I understand the similarity with the latin languages, as it shares that origin, it is its own word. The actual word is being used, not words that sound alike, as it was exported by colonial powers. I don't have to have lived there to be aware of its use. Hell, anyone that read the post is now aware, there wasn't any confusion as to what was stated in the peace corps document.
Apparently there is because the post clearly states that there is a possibility a volunteer might hear that word but it not be intentionally racist. You're completely ignoring that half the message is 'evaluate and determine if it is ignorance or racism'.
You're completely ignoring what I'm actually saying to keep pushing your own narrative. I specifically stated they may be ignorant of the origin of the n word, but you know that. That's why you and these other racists keep harping on that and not addressing the issue of racist depictions. Ya'll are so obvious, I could almost laugh.
Because the issue isn't racist depictions. It's a lack of education and a focus on intolerance instead of actually employing the sympathy you are demanding. Nobody is arguing the word or imagery is fundamentally racist in origin. We're saying they honestly don't know about that so need education. That's the context you are ignoring to go on your black knight crusade.
You are the exact opposite of what the Peace Corps is asking their members to be. Hear the offensive word and you go on a rage fueled violent rant about how racist they are being instead of taking a deep breathe, looking at the situation and realizing they only use the word because it is the only one they know. Simply taking the time to inform them of how hurtful the word/imagery is without being a salty bitch about it is how fences are mended.
Again, you're the one focusing on the word and continuing to outright ignore the comment about racist depictions. Again, ya'll are very obvious, especially "black knight." Ya'll are racist Trash and full of shit to boot.
Thank you for proving my point
Your point that you keep talking about the n word and that isn't even what the focus was? Really what is your point? You're a racist who finds racism acceptable and is deeply offended that anyone would point out that being racist makes you a shitty person? That your point?
You've already proven my point. No need to keep piling on evidence. You can just stop and reflect now on anything you're unclear about as it's all a simple re-read.