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[–] Drusas@kbin.run 12 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Foregoing meat completely is one way to eat less meat.

Anyway, your argument is a perfect example of "don't let perfect be the enemy of good." It will be much easier to convince people to become vegetarian or vegan in the future if they first get used to not eating meat with every meal/every day.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

I don't mean to equate anything here, but do you think that would have been an effective strategy for social change in other movements?

Like: "What if we just did a little slavery? It'll be much easier to convince slave owners to give up slavery if they got used to having just a few slaves."

Do you think that would have been an effective strategy instead of calling for complete abolition?

Once again, I'm not trying to draw a comparison here, you could substitute any past social movement, but the logical structure should hold regardless.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You are very directly drawing a comparison there, regardless of your claim otherwise.

This is a spurious argument which is clearly meant to provoke, so I'm not going to engage any further. The two are not the same, and if you can't see that, I'm obviously not going to be the one to convince you since you.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

If you can't understand the difference between structure and content, there's no point in discussing further.

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