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Several hundred LGBT Ukrainian servicemen and their supporters marched in central Kyiv Sunday to demand more rights and highlight their service to their country in its war with Russia...

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[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 70 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

If LGBTQ+ people serving to defend Ukraine don't receive better legal standing than they have right now, I would be opposed to letting Ukraine join the EU after the war.

The supposed western values Zelensky claims Ukraine is defending imo. include equal rights for Gender, Romantic and Sexual Minorities (GRSM)

My support during the war though is independent of that. Let Putin eat shit.

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

@Enkrod I see where you are going, but Eastern Europe generally has a lot to go in order to get inclusion right. Like, right now, one of the two larger far right parties in here (yes, we have two and we sent them both to Brussels) are heavily promoting an initiative to add into constitution the fact that a family can only be composed of a man and a woman, as well as the right to pay with cash (yes, I know how crazy that sounds, it doesn't matter what happens in reality). And we're already in both the EU and NATO.

@Burstar

[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 17 points 3 months ago

Oh Ukraine absolutely should be allowed to join NATO asap!

But the failure of many EU states to defend the rights of their citizens doesn't mean we should let more people opposed to those rights join the Union. I firmly believe that the EU should be the shining beacon on the hill. That we come together to defend our rights, ensure peace and seek cooperation across the continent, but always, always in the pursuit of the lofty ideals of humanism, the enlightenment and social justice.

I am fighting the right at home, I have no intend to supply them with reinforcements.

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