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[–] median_user@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago (11 children)

EVs don't fix congestion, don't fix particulates from tyres, don't fix tyre noise (which dominates above 30mph), don't fix crash deaths, don't fix road damage, don't fix energy usage and don't fix cars contributing to sedentary lifestyles.

Perhaps we should also be looking at some other solutions while we transition to from ICE vehicles EVs.

[–] snacks@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

all of this is incorrect or misleading. in order:

congestion is far better in an EV than ICE. particulates from tyres and brakes are far worse in hotter engines, EVs use engine braking for 70-80% of all travel.

crash deaths are hardly EV specific.

nor is road damage.

after 15k miles the carbon debt is paid off and you can recycle the battery at end of life.

people need to travel to work.

im all for arguments against EVs but none of these are valid and have been debunked over and over and over again.

[–] mrsgamedev@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

My solar pays off itself by charging my car in only 4 yrs!

My electric ID3 is safer than my previous manual car (Golf). Smart stopping, adjusts to speed limits and cars in front automatically, no roll at all on hill starts, so nice to bring to a stop and go again that I now let so many more people cross / out, acceleration so crazy good that it makes over taking much quicker and easier (critical for where I live), lane detection, sleep protection etc. Generally made me a belter driver, and much more able to focus.

Now I know a lot of that is with modern automatics - but some of it is a pretty uniquely from EV. Not to mention it's an incredibly fun drive and so responsive.

Bonus - still much better carbon wise than ICE and able to be recycled much better.

Heavier than my Golf? Probably - but weighs less than a ton of SUVs and Range Rovers.

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