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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] realbadat@programming.dev -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Ah, yes, because Trump has been historically climate friendly, and didn't try to sell his presidency to oil companies even as little as a few weeks ago.

Great choice. Brilliant even.

Edit: For those down voting without a comment, please feel free to explain why you think not voting (which is going to boost Trump) or voting 3rd party (which again, is going to boost Trump) is helpful.

As opposed to not ignoring the differences between candidates, accepting that Biden is the lesser evil, pushing for progressives at the city/state level, and having a future path forward as opposed to what Trump has explicitly stated his plans are where there won't be a progressive option in the future.

I'd love to hear a viable alternative, really.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Voting fir either is making it worse.

No arguments that Trumps a scum bag but if folks dont start moving Green, nothing will EVER change.

[–] realbadat@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago

I'm going to have to disagree pretty hard.

Biden won't do much of anything to move things where they need to be, absolutely. But Trump is going to make it much worse - and a few months before an election, those are the only choices.

To get more progressives in requires starting lower down. Local, county, and state representatives. Shawn Fain, for example, would have a good chance in a state election. More folks like Cori Bush or Jeff Merkley representing their state at the federal level.

With Trump elected - democracy is at stake, we've already seen that just a few years ago. You're not getting progressives anywhere in a Trump presidency.

Voting for one doesn't move the needle. Voting for the other, or not voting at all and taking a vote against a potential future, is guaranteed to make things worse.

Suggesting Trump and Biden are the same and yield the same results is absolute lunacy.