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[–] snacks@feddit.uk -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

you cant say that black is white and ask people to accept the conclusion. Bikes are great for personal travel but for example I carry equipment everywhere all over the country. Its not a solution unless your perspective is that I cant go to work, which is absurd.

[–] Granary@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Most trips aren't being taken by people carrying equipment to work. The good thing about promoting alternative methods of travel is that people who really need to drive (like yourself) aren't hindered by those only driving as it's the most convenient. Driving in the Netherlands is excellent partly because they have great cycling and public transport infrastructure.

You might find this video informative from Not Just Bikes about driving in the Netherlands - https://youtu.be/d8RRE2rDw4k?t=2m58s

[–] snacks@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

again with the false premise. The vast majority of traffic is business related, not just commuting. Wether someone goes to the park on a bike or not is just a side issue, and not what the original post was about.

[–] Granary@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

According to the National Travel Survey 2021 only 3% of car trips are for business (see chart 10). The vast majority of trips are for leasure/commuting/shopping which can be done via other means.

Most people use the mode of transport most convenient for them, so the trick is to make more effecient modes of transport (i.e. not cars) the most convenient.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/national-travel-survey-2021/national-travel-survey-2021-household-car-availability-and-trends-in-car-trips#trends-in-car-trips

[–] snacks@feddit.uk -2 points 1 year ago

This is frustrating for me. Business isn’t just cars, it’s vans, heavy goods and everything else on the road, which all need to be decarbonised. I’m not against bikes, or whatever you’re on about. I’ve done my best here but I can’t keep typing the same thing over and over