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What is Lemmygrad's stance on the Ukraine war? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Somokoth@lemmygrad.ml to c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml
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I've tried to search for opinions on what's going on in Ukraine, but most posts are incredibly old. I'm not too educated on the matter myself (well, aside from keeping up most of the time with what cities are under whose control and all of that). I haven't really heard much about the geopolitical side of things, and it's hard to know what's disinfo or not; That's why I'd like to ask: What is your stance on the Ukraine war?

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[–] rosered@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I appreciate that you mentioned that vice news series, it's always nice to see something new. But, you're absolutely wrong about the EuroMaidan protests, neo-nazis played a huge role in it. Check out this article that also includes photo and video evidence regarding it: https://www.salon.com/2014/02/25/is_the_us_backing_neo_nazis_in_ukraine_partner/

[–] BillyBadBoy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maby start with this video instead, it shows footage from the vice docu and does a bit of a better job explaining it, i I am really interested in your opinion on it.

https://youtu.be/obMTYs30E9A

I have read the article but a lot of the links arnt working on my phone. I will try give a proper response to it soon.

But to say that the euromaidan was a uprising by nazis is such a misrepresentation. I have never seen nazis openly protesting to join the EU. I would rather call them ultra natianolists.

To be a nazi is different in every country, depending on it history. To call people a nazi leaves out so much details en glosses over all the cultural differences. And i do think russia is using this.

The russians are the agressors in this war, and putin is a political leader with absolute power. For me this is definatly what it means to be a nazi.

Ther might be some nazi sypathizers in ukraine, but none of it is institutionalised.

[–] Bl00dyH3ll@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. Your definition of nazi means that Americans are nazis.
  2. Having an open nazi battalion in your army is the definition of institutionalized.
[–] BillyBadBoy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  1. Correct (my homecountry has been a nazi to a few colonies itsdlf aswell)

Waving a nazi flag is one thing. But shooting random civillians, taking territory, concentration camps, deportation. Makes you a real nazi. Al of these thing are normal in the russian army. While ukranians are actively trying to do better.

Ukraine has a long way to go but that way is with the EU and its values.

https://youtu.be/lVkBVExuXSQ Russia should invade usa?

https://youtu.be/XQc6mJ7u8gQ Russia should invade russia?