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"Despite these polls and the passions raised by the war with Hamas, it is easy to exaggerate the power of Gaza as a motivating issue for voters eight months from no-win November. History suggests that foreign policy issues end up as a minor motif in presidential politics unless American soldiers are dying in combat as they were in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2004.”

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[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm not convinced.

Biden is super pro Israel, has been forever.

Trump is super pro Israel. But also is pro money. And pro being schmoozed. And pro Saudi. Honestly he's pro-himself only.

The American public at large doesn't GAF about Palestine. I bet 90% can't even point out where in the world Israel is on a map even if they are Bible thumping Jerusalem lovers.

If Trump gets into office, you better believe Saudi, Qatar, and the UAE will be whispering sweet nothing's into his ear while donating some sweet money to his corporations to care more about Palestine. Trump Estate's, a new Palestinian village coming soon.

With Biden you know what you're getting. With Trump you don't know. So if this is your single issue... I could see it mattering.

People vote against their interests or irrationally based on a single talking point all the time. It's time to stop giving so much reverance to the US voter. They do not research and carefully weigh their options. Most vote tribally for whoever has the right letter. The rest are too stupid or brave to admit the choice they made up 3 years earlier. Very few are truly swing voters and of you can't pick a side at this point, you're exactly the type of person that would vote for someone giving you a free sandwich or that agrees with your one talking point you love.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If Trump gets into office, you better believe Saudi, Qatar, and the UAE will be whispering sweet nothing's into his ear while donating some sweet money to his corporations to care more about Palestine.

I don't think the Saudi royal family cares about Gaza. They may talk the talk because it helps cement their regional leadership. But billionaire Arab oil monarchs don't care about a bunch of half-Arab refugees hiding in tunnels under shanty towns.

The truth is that radical Islamist groups like Hamas, the Houthis, and ISIS are a potentially grave threat to the Saudi royal family. It is absolutely in the Saudi's interest to have distraction targets. The US invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, the ongoing Israel-Gaza conflict, the Syria war, Houthi attacks on western-owned Red Sea shipping, simmering tensions between the US and Iran... these are all good for thr Saudis. They all increase the price of oil, make Saudi Arabia an attractive, stable ally for the West, and keep Islamist radicals focused on the evil unbelievers rather than the evil oil monarchs.

[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

They care for show. But they also care because Saudi style help, would be them owning the land essentially. Now Saudi could build the Suez canal competition in the strip. The Saudis dislike the Egyptians and love more money. That's my tin foil hat conspiracy anyways.