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[–] Morefan@retrolemmy.com -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

"That isn't happening"

While that position held, Marx now acknowledged that the standard of living of the wage earners advances with every progressive stride the bourgeoisie take. The matter, then, was more relative than absolute. Marx had now fully grown up.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/toi-edit-page/we-are-all-marxists-liberal-democrats-have-understood-the-communist-manifesto-better-than-communists/

[–] HappyRedditRefugee@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Imo, a problem with Marx, is that tha the languaje he used lend itself to very broad interpretations, thus making it easy to absorb him into whatever ideology/plan/scheme.

People who like Stalin or Mao and in a lesser degree Trotsky and Lennin -which to whom we nowadays call commnunists- used his languaje to reaffirm their ideas. Even tho imo their ideoligical brand was quite a ways out of Marx.

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's annoying to talk to some self described communists. There was one guy who said consumer cooperatives were capitalist despite the fact that they are communally owned, don't allow for capital accumulation, and are literally a form of organization Marx endorsed, but the guy I was arguing told me I needed to do more reading. Consumer cooperatives are a little more on the Anarchist side close to worker cooperatives, but they are most definitely socialist.

[–] HappyRedditRefugee@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

I saw a guy here in Lemmy arguing once that the nordics are socialists contries... The dude also told the comenters trying to explain why is not true to go read... I get they were confused and I belive is a easy mistake to make, but he had so many good comments explaining in a calm and easy way why he wasn't right and he keept just deying it.

There is just sadly too much (miss)information out there and most people dont have the interest, energy or (and in a lesser degree) the capacity to exercise critical thinking and reading.

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