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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago (11 children)
  1. Be a nobody
  2. Get made PM to scapegoat for all the terrible tory tax cuts
  3. Quit sooner than a lettuce can go bad
  4. ???
  5. Somehow still in government? Allowed to spend taxpayer money?

French Revolution 2 wen?

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (9 children)

There is something quite beautiful about the British culture of keeping a stiff upper lip, but sometimes you should let it go a little bit and riot. It's cathartic.

[–] astreus@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

Brit and avid history fan here! Stiff upper lip is a myth. We used to be a very rebelious lot:

We're taught about Henry VIII, but not about the mass uprising he had to put down (The Pilgrimage of Grace)

We hear about the Battle of Hastings but not the Harrying of the North.

We're never taught about the Enclosure Acts (that stole land from the common folk) and the subsequent uprising and brutal repression (including the Midlands Revolt).

We also had the Peasants Revolt trying to stop the crazy taxation during the 100 year war!

And if we're looking for other acts of rebellion:

The Peterloo Massacre

The General Strike of 1926

The Miner's Strikes of the 80s

The Battle of Cable Street (Police protecting Nazis)

The Battle of Lewisham (Police protecting Nazis)

But it is far, far better for those in power to make us believe we have always been meek and "stiff upper lip"

EDIT: for people looking for a complete list, this ain't it. I just chose a few that were in my mind at the time. I also didn't include anything to do with imposed rule or I'd just gesture vaguely at the island of Ireland.

I also didn't include anything to do with aristocrats fighting each other. This is an incomplete list of popular uprisings to make a point.

[–] Lassielmr@mastodon.scot 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

@astreus @drolex what tosh. Most of that is not British but English history. Nobody in Scotland, Wales and NI was taught these things. And nobody can accuse Scotland & NI of a stiff upper lip given our history as England being the enemy

[–] astreus@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

It's actually all English history. I avoided Scottish, NI and Welsh because rebellion against imposed rule of the English felt like a different beast to what was being discussed.

And no one in and English school is being taught about these things either.

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