Too many people are confusing the two. Whenever lemmy.ml or its devs do something stupid, people go "Lemmy is getting worse and worse," or "I'm leaving Lemmy," or worse, "I'm leaving for Beehaw."

If you're using Beehaw, then you're using Lemmy. Lemmy is the software these instances run on. If you don't like lemmy.ml, join another instances that have rules that match your philosophy. Some instance hosts authoritarian or fascist shit? Turn to another Lemmy instance. Lemmy.ml is not even the biggest instance. People who just joined and are unfamiliar with the platform will just think the entire Lemmyverse is run by autocratic admins if we don't get our terminology right.

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[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 1 year ago (50 children)

If you really care that much about "Authoritarians" and "Tankies", maybe you should just move to exploding-heads.

[–] required@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (29 children)

I joined Lemmy a while ago and I suddenly got exposed to many "tankie" debates going on. Is there a reason this group suddenly became relevant on Lemmy (I mean, from the view of a Reddit migrant)?

[–] lemmybrucelee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (28 children)

Because thanks to the federated setup we get exposed to a wider range of ideas. There are people who are actually socialist or communist and support countries like Cuba and see what China is trying to do with communism there and offer different perspectives. Western media is flooded with anti China propaganda because the capitalists just can't compete with a state run economy. So the word 'tankie' is what capitalists or liberals use to shut down Marxist dialogue over these countries. It's basically used the way MAGA idiots use 'woke'. The meaning is ambiguous and the point is to stop 'bad ideas' from being discussed.

[–] WonderQuest@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China is not communist, it's an authoritarian state doing state capitalism and performing ethnic cleansing/genocide. It's quite far removed from the ideals of communism.

[–] lemmybrucelee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's kind of both. I think of it more like a hybrid car. It has capitalism and foreign companies love it, but it also has a very strong communist base, the state controls production and distribution, the local communities vote for the local government. I think there may be a gap in your understanding about how their government is set up.. but I'm sure we can have a rational dialogue about this issue right?

[–] WonderQuest@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is a good comparison because I also oppose car-dependant infrastructure and think we would be better off with more public transports and an infrastructure closer to the people in general.

I suppose I don't get why someone who claim to be communist would adhere in any way to capitalism knowing full well how much harm capitalism bought about.

But then I'm an anarchist so it's not that surprising to me that a state would perpetuate oppressing power structures such as Capitalism or Police forces.

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