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‘Impossible’ to create AI tools like ChatGPT without copyrighted material, OpenAI says::Pressure grows on artificial intelligence firms over the content used to train their products

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[–] S410@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago (33 children)

They're not wrong, though?

Almost all information that currently exists has been created in the last century or so. Only a fraction of all that information is available to be legally acquired for use and only a fraction of that already small fraction has been explicitly licensed using permissive licenses.

Things that we don't even think about as "protected works" are in fact just that. Doesn't matter what it is: napkin doodles, writings on bathrooms stall walls, letters written to friends and family. All of those things are protected, unless stated otherwise. And, I don't know about you, but I've never seen a license notice attached to a napkin doodle.

Now, imagine trying to raise a child while avoiding every piece of information like that; information that you aren't licensed to use. You wouldn't end up with a person well suited to exist in the world. They'd lack education regarding science, technology, they'd lack understanding of pop-culture, they'd know no brand names, etc.

Machine learning models are similar. You can train them that way, sure, but they'd be basically useless for real-world applications.

[–] AntY@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (5 children)

The main difference between the two in your analogy, that has great bearing on this particular problem, is that the machine learning model is a product that is to be monetized.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And ultimately replace the humans it learned from.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Yes clearly 90 years plus death of artist is acceptable

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net -1 points 10 months ago

Good, I want AI to do all my work for me

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also an “AI” is not human, and should not be regulated as such

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Neither is a corporation and yet they claim first amendment rights.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s an entirely separate problem, but is certainly a problem

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it is. We have all these non-human stuff we are awarding more rights to than we have. You can't put a corporation in jail but you can put me in jail. I don't have freedom from religion but a corporation does.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Corporations are not people, and should not be treated as such.

If a company does something illegal, the penalty should be spread to the board. It’d make them think twice about breaking the law.

We should not be awarding human rights to non-human, non-sentient creations. LLMs and any kind of Generative AI are not human and should not in any case be treated as such.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Corporations are not people, and should not be treated as such.

Understand. Please tell Disney that they no longer own Mickey Mouse.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Artificial intelligence is incredible in its flexibility!

Simultaneously, it is like a human,
And yet "only a tool."

[–] testfactor@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

And real children aren't in a capitalist society?

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