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What sources can I link to people who trust Wikipedia on history and politics, particularly about AES and imperialism?

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[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 8 months ago (8 children)

English language NATOpedia has the same “unbiased” views as the corporate media people have always consumed. It doesn’t occur to them that liberal media has a capitalist bias. Inventing Reality and Manufacturing Consent aren’t in the media literacy curriculum.

[–] Red_Scare@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Funny thing, the person in question watched manufacturing consent (didn't read the book) and generally agrees mainstream news outlets are controlled by the capital (in many cases owned by capitalists and run for profit), but considers Wikipedia a step above - open, free, well sourcedᶜᶦᵗᵃᵗᶦᵒⁿ ⁿᵉᵉᵈᵉᵈ, edited by regular people, etc.

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Yup, just regular people who’ve been propagandized their entire lives by the hegemonic Global North liberal ideology.

Sometimes they try to explain things to me, as if I didn’t grow up under the exact same conditions as they did, went to the same schools, consumed the same media, and got fed the same cold war propaganda. I know exactly what & how they think because I was them.

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh this is super frustrating for me too. I've only been really considered a communist for like 6 months. So all my friends and family and everyone around me had the exact same opinions as me more than 6 months ago. But now that my opinion has changed on a bunch of topics, all of the sudden they need to explain things like I'm 5 years old. I'm a full grown adult and we've known each other for years! You don't need to explain your perspective to me! I already know it!

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I’m an elder gen-x, so if you think they’re doing this because you’re young, I’m sorry to report that it’s not that.

[–] RedClouds@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough! Good to know this isn't ageism at least.

[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Curious when we become old enough to have enough experience to meaningfully argue for communism. 24 is still too "inexperienced" to truly understand why communism can't work and capitalism is the best we'll ever have.

Been calling myself one for ten years. Been studying it for ten years. Still get told by people who haven't even left their home state that I'm just naive about the realities of the world. Lol.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yup, just regular people who’ve been propagandized their entire lives by the hegemonic Global North liberal ideology.

And feds and assets, see that recent "Words of Iron" story about coordinated hasbara

[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 8 months ago

Take a look at this Wikimedia ex-CEO’s resume: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Maher fedposting fedposting fedposting

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