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[–] big_spoon@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

well...i think it's not betrayal as much it is apathy because ukraine didn't achieve its purpose: destroy russia

[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It seems like destroying Russia was a really ambitious goal. I doubt the empire managers of the US sincerely thought that would happen.

But by instigating a proxy war with Ukrainian bodies they were able to increase domination over their European vassal states, boost the profits of weapon manufacturers, and establish new narrative control mechanisms on the American populace. These were the actual short-sided victories that the US were aiming for, even though in the long-term this will contribute further to the downfall of the empire. But, you know, it's all about those marginal gainz baby.

[–] LeniX@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter. It could have been their "cherry on top, absolute best-case scenario". They still de-industrialized the EU, bled it dry, cut Russia off from Europe, somewhat weakened Russia militarily (I mean, casualties are casualties even if the ratio is 20:1, 50:1, 100:1 - they are losing well-trained experienced soldiers too).

[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 8 months ago

I agree. Defeating Russia was their Nat 20.