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If proper CPR involves compressing the chest so much such that the ribcage might break - doesnt that breakage risks a bone puncturing the heart?

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[–] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip 44 points 11 months ago (4 children)

So I've done lots of cpr. First off it's kind of a misconception that you'll break ribs from cpr. You are more likely to break cartilage than actually break bones and appropriate cpr isn't going to break bones unless they're the smallest most frail person and the individual doing cpr is going crazy doing compressions.

Even if you break ribs you're probably not going to have a displaced rib fracture as there's muscles and tissue holding those bones in place, it's pretty rare to have ribs break so bad they risk puncturing organs and it usually involves catastrophic trauma, not what you get from cpr.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I have, thankfully, never done CPR live, but I'm certified to teach CPR by the Danish First Aid Council. So I have a interest in learning from actual practitioners, although I'm obviously not allowed to alter the course.

Where do you stand on ventilation? Currently I have to teach 30:2 mouth to mouth, but I know that there's talk about skipping ventilation either entirely or at least for adults. The thinking being that children don't suffer spontaneous cardiac arrests, but that it's usually a result of blocked airways.

Do you do ventilation and does it make a difference in your experience?

[–] Kelsenellenelvial@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

I’ve had a few different First Aid courses and the instructors all have slightly different reasoning. One argument for compression only is potential for passing disease mouth to mouth, the newer courses tend to teach this because sometimes people that don’t feel comfortable doing rescue breaths will fail to do CPR at all. Another is that in cases where you’ve witnessed the event, the blood is already fairly well oxygenated and if medical help has a good response time the benefits of breaths are minimal. The first is more about compression only CPR being better than nothing, breaths are still advised where the rescuer feels comfortable doing so. The second is pretty situational.

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