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[–] artemisia@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Ignoring the fact that some of these people were billionaires, I think all of them forfeited any respect for their lives when they chose to step into a metal tube and put several miles of water between them and the breathable atmosphere, for fun. Same as mountaineers choosing to climb into a "death zone". If you choose to go there for fun then that's how much YOU value your own life and your relationships. I don't see why I should then have a huge amount of sympathy when these people inevitably die.

I cannot understand why the military was mobilised at huge cost? Surely these people should sign a much more wide ranging waiver saying they are doing this at their own risk and should not expect any rescue attempts beyond what the organisers insurance policy covers?

[–] root@lemmy.belclayfer.net 17 points 1 year ago (10 children)

This viewpoint is misguided and inhumane, I'm sorry to say. We don't get to pick and choose who's lives have value, even if they do something risky or stupid.

I don’t see why I should then have a huge amount of sympathy when these people inevitably die.

Ugh

[–] Zelsabriel@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We don't get to pick and choose who's lives have value, even if they do something risky or stupid.

But isn't that exactly what happens? Was there as much of a rescue effort to find the hundreds of missing Pakistani migrants who went missing off the coast of Greece last week? Was it even as widely covered in the media as 5 missing rich people in a sub? Have you even heard that they were missing before this comment?

What about the 5,000 missing and murdered indigenous women who disappear every year? Are we mobilizing the military to find them?

We absolutely pick and choose whose lives have value. That's the problem.

[–] root@lemmy.belclayfer.net 4 points 1 year ago

Have you even heard that they were missing before this comment?

How could anyone who's been on beehaw in the last few days not have heard about the Pakistani migrants?

How could anyone in this thread not have heard?

We absolutely pick and choose whose lives have value.

I don't know who you mean when you say "we". If you mean governments and power structures then yes, I agree and it's one of the biggest flaws in our society. If you mean individuals, then yes, some people do, but it's wrong to do so whether it's billionaires, migrants, or anyone else. And I know a lot of people have a hard time with this.

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