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I've been using Ubuntu as my daily driver for a good few years now. Unfortunately I don't like the direction they seem to be heading.

I've also just ordered a new computer, so it seems like the best time to change over. While I'm sure it will start a heated debate, what variant would people recommend?

I'm not after a bleeding edge, do it all yourself OS it will be my daily driver, so don't want to have to get elbow deep in configs every 5 minutes. My default would be to go back to Debian. However, I know the steam deck is arch based. With steam developing proton so hard, is it worth the additional learning curve to change to arch, or something else?

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[–] ono@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

(Elaborating now that I'm not on mobile...)

Have you ever tested Debian stable vs Debian sid?

Yes, I have, as well as developed and packaged software for both. And not just a little. Your comment about how release cycles work is patronizing, and your diatribe is misleading.

Arch is at kernel 6.6.3.

Debian Stable currently has kernel 6.5 for those who choose to install it. Not that it matters, because a higher kernel version number doesn't magically grant better performance. Specific changes may help in specific cases, but most kernel revisions don't offer any significant difference to games. The more common reason to want a new rev is to support specific hardware.

Unless you have a very new GPU (released less than a year ago), your games are not likely to get any benefit at all from the latest kernel.

And unless your games require the very latest Vulkan features and you run them without Steam, Flatpak, or any other platform that provides its own Mesa, you’re not likely to get any benefit from a distro providing the latest version of it.

Practically everything else that games need is comparable across all the major distros, including Debian. (Arch might have hundreds of other packages that happen to be newer, but those won't make games run faster.)

OP, choose a distro that makes you happy, not one that some random person claims is best for gaming. If what Debian offers is appealing to you, rest assured that it is generally excellent for gaming.

[–] Bloodyhog@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (7 children)

A question here: plan to upgrade to 7800xt sometime in the near future. The card is quite new, so i have doubts after your reply above. I am mainly gaming and do basic office stuff (Libre office is enough). Also, though I can install Ubuntu - press X to win type install works for me - I am new to linux, so not big on fiddling with obscure packages. Just want games to run well - so, in this specific usecase, what distros would you recommend to try?

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

For what it's worth I have an RX 7900XT and it works great with the Free software driver. The other reply is right that amdgpu is supported. I use Endeavor and was a bit confused about setting it up at first, but the nice guys at the GamingOnLinux discord helped me out and now it's extremely painless to use and upgrade.

[–] Bloodyhog@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thanks! Can you walk me through here: what exactly is a Free software driver? As with everything in linux - you either know, or don't)

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's just what it sounds like: the driver is Free software. This is in contrast to the situation with Nvidia where there's a Free software driver that doesn't perform well and a proprietary driver from Nvidia that performs better, but is kind of a pain in the ass for users and distro maintainers to maintain. You're reliant on Nvidia for support so you're forced to use certain versions of kernels and libraries (I think). The AMD driver is free, open source, performs well and is more flexible.

[–] Bloodyhog@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah, so you mean the one supplied by AMD themselves? Good, thanks.

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yes, but you don't want to actually go get them from AMD's site like I was doing. I think this is what I followed: https://github.com/lutris/docs/blob/master/InstallingDrivers.md

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