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[–] Neato@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Dogs like that, that are aggressive and either can't or won't be trained should be destroyed, their owners fined heavily, and banned from owning dogs.

Dogs are classified as property and a dog that hurts someone causes the owner to be liable. A threat of violence from a dog, said property, is not much different than an owner with a gun negligently pointing it.

[–] sizzler@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

I've been to some pretty remote farm locations and they always have three types of dogs.

  1. The pet - small jack Russell type that lives in the house.
  2. The worker - sheep dog type that accompanies the farmer in his day to day life. Often sleeps close to the house or inside when cold.
  3. The beast - doberman etc always caged in the day. No interaction from guests. Ferocious human haters. They will roam the yards at night and generally patrol.

Each is part of the farm and has their place, to call them property is wrong because they are an essential part of the living.

The problem to me is when one of the 3rd type lives in close proximity to strangers. That's the last place they should be.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The beast - doberman etc always caged in the day. No interaction from guests. Ferocious human haters. They will roam the yards at night and generally patrol.

If the point of this dog is to attack humans, or if that is incidental and it's not trained to NOT do that, it should be destroyed. It's effectively a sentient weapon that will attack people.

There are trained guard dogs and watch dogs. Watch dogs alert people and guard dogs to intruders. Guard dogs warn off intruders and can be trained to attack if a resident is attacked. The latter is much more problematic and liable for lawsuits but what you described is a walking Wrongful Death lawsuit waiting to happen. Trespassing laws (in the US) don't allow lethal force. Even Castle Law usually requires an intruder to be offering violence.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

It’s effectively a sentient weapon that will attack people.

Well, yes, that's the point. But not specifically people, but any animal coming into the territory, like wolves, coyotes, or foxes, that might kill livestock.

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