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Which Desktop / Window Manager is most secure? (feddit.de)

submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Pantherina@feddit.de to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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I use KDE. Some use GNOME. Most other options are probably to be left out as X11 is unsafe.

Cosmic is not nearly finished, but will probably be a bit safer, as its in rust, even though not tested.

Then there are window managers like Sway, Hyprland, waymonad, wayfire, etc.

RaspberryPi also has their own Wayland Desktop.

Is every Wayland Desktop / WM equally safe, what are other variables here like language, features, control over permissions, etc?

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[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (14 children)

Never heard of these jails, like bubblejail? Its available on Linux too.

I know the question is vague and highly dependend on Threat model etc. Pre-enabled services, distribution adding stuff to it, SELinux confined user (not working with Plasma at all), xwayland support for keylogging chosen keys (Plasma).

Also GTK is widely used for rust apps, this doesnt exist on Plasma at all, not a problem though as Plasma is not Gnome and simply supports GTK normally.

[–] jman6495@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (13 children)

I don't think the DE itself matters, but I can recommend using an immutable OS (makes it harder to install malware) and installing flatpak apps only. You can also use software like flatseal to further lock down permissions

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Already doing that :D kinoite-main from ublue

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[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I dont get that scentence

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[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No that is bluefin, their special distro.

Ublue is like rpmfusion but for image-based. Its the addition to fedora, with packages they can't ship. They replace all the libav* with complete ffmpeg which is pretty great as its a great tool and Firefox works ootb.

For example they have -nvidia images for every image, which is the best way to use the proprietary NVIDIA drivers as you can roll back and a broken update simply wont ship to you.

They also have modded kernel images for Razer, Surface and a special Framework image.

Another cool project basing off their "starting point" toolkit to create custom images, is secureblue, a security-optimized Version including

hardened kernel and hardened_malloc
updated Chromium, maybe soon Brave
soon a hardened Chromium (currently as COPR "vanadium") like GrapheneOS
hardened services, firewall
removed unused kernel modules

It is very security focused though, so no Firefox, no Flatpak as its currently broken, Podman (distrobox, toolbox) is currently not working and its unclear if that is actually necessary, ...

Bluefin is their fancy distro with lots of Tools, a custom Desktop, integrated Developer packages and more.

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